Feedbacks on Zvezda gymnastics (from other Internet resources)

[Emeraldy_me]

Dear ladies,

In this topic you can familiarize yourselves with the real experience of other women practicing Zvezda gymnastics. Enjoy!

Third month of my gymnastics.
It’s already the third month of my gymnastics practice. And I have new results, not only at the physical level, there is also a shift in my mindset. I knew it could happen, but saying truth, I haven’t expected it would be so global and visible.
Pleasant physical changes: a very cute tummy, a bit bulgy, a bit biggish, but cute. If I sit for a long time slouching, I feel an instinctive desire to up hands in B2 exercise, or stretch out on the floor in H2 or any elbows-and-knees exercise, where I can sag and stretch. No more pain in my pelvis joint, but before I even used to wake up at nights and roll over when I felt a dull pain there. Yesterday I was at the gynecologist to get a medical certificate for the pool. "Everything’s fine, womb is fine, vaginal discharge is clear, good girl", said the doctor. When I was 27 years old, I got a diagnosis of fibroadenoma and the doctors even tried to send me to the cancer center to cut everything to avoid suffering. But I did not allow shredding my body just like that. Somehow I didn’t believe the diagnosis, though pains and strain in my breasts signalized about some not very good processes there. I started eastern practices, Norbekov’s exercises, gimlam, yoga, where the womb is involved and there are womb contractions as during orgasm. But the pain, as a signal that something existed somewhere, remained unchanged. My last period, with slight strain only, clear, not heavy, showed that the fibroadenoma has faded away. A gynecologist, having examined and palpated the breast, confirmed that everything’s fine, and the breast is normal. 

Psychology and relations with people
For three years I’ve been trying to change to another work, that would be somewhat bigger, upgrading and moving me upward. As I believed that at my current job I’ve already grown up and there is no space for further career progress, that I’m already a beautiful perfection. When it didn’t work, I got a depression, dismay, apathy. I felt angry with my family and friends. Everything was bad.
Now I feel as if a door had opened inside of me... I don’t have to change anything; grow depthward, not outward. Have a look how many possibilities are around. The whole day you work with the PC, so the time, remaining after a perfectly done work, can be used for self-development, to learn something new and useful. I’m keen on perfect and decorate my house. My profession obliges, as I’m a professional artist, though deal mainly with design and paint more by PC than by hand. In the evenings, after work, I create pieces of bijouterie for myself, draw sketches for wall and furniture painting. I’ve suddenly understood that first of all I wish to create beauty for my family, and then for the friends, surrounding people, clients. Though some time ago the situation was just opposite. I did everything for my family based on the ‘left-over principle’.

I start feeling a kind of internal orientation point, my female intuition has proudly and uncompromisingly lifted up its head and if I did something on my own, without prior coordinating that decision with my soul, then be careful! But now that does not lead me to dismay and accompanied apathy, I feel a new breath of life, I see other options, I search for solutions. In principle, I always was like this, with backup plans and access roads, but now it works consciously, thoughtfully. If there is a nasty problem, something doesn’t work, I stay calm, constructive, no drama that it doesn’t work, I don’t blame myself as a piece of shit any more.
Well, looks like I’ve written too much, sorry for that.

And in conclusion about men. Recently our relations with my husband were rather tense, we are together for 18 years, quite long time. Cold and restrained feelings, seductive offers from other people. And here I suddenly have again his compliments, his hunger for me, his belief that we are together, that we’ll overcome everything and everyone. Three months of gymnastics practice to get all of this: refreshed relations somehow shaded before, all realizations about each other – seem to me a great result.
Source: http://www.stranamam.ru/post/6466095/ 

[Emeraldy_me]

So let me start from what I’ve already written to Masha in FB: today for the first time I managed to do exercises with real pleasure! And with my tummy relaxed! Usually I’m all tensed, even my bad eyesight is caused by the tensed eye muscles (as it turned out). And only a few days ago I finally read and understood and accepted with a great relief for myself that the exercises are done in a beautiful and relaxed manner, and with pleasure.
And that’s something amazing.

I didn’t watch the video, I selected the cards and read for the first time the description of the exercises (downloaded from the forum). Probably for the first time I allocated time not for someone, but for MYSELF, and enjoyed, in a sincere and lovable way – it was so unusual.

As for my health condition – that fact that I lost all my energy and fell sick made me visit a bunch of doctors. At my 35 years my problems were – tensed eye muscles (and even the eyesight turned out not to be so bad as I used to believe), headaches, neck segment of the spine, and horrible anemia. That’s it. Plus a constantly growing mole on my face, already removed two times.

For a short period I underwent two courses of supportive treatment (massages, baths, physiotherapy etc), but quitted being afraid of doctors and learn communicating with them.   

Most amazing for me during this treatment was the thing I heard from each doctor, before each procedure. "Have a rest! Enjoy it!" – and it was such a shock for me, real shock. My treatment turned out to be a relaxation that I’d never allowed myself before. 

And most important is that I’ve seen my own tense, alertness. Always. Neither joy nor lightness, - I stopped laughing the way I used to laugh always, probably since being pregnant with my second daughter.
And all this year I’ve been learning how to rest and relax.

My shoulders, necks were so wooden-tough (and now as well) – that I managed to feel that only a year ago.
I’ve realized that I slept also in a tensed manner, with clenched fists and the stiff jaw.
I was not able to do the knee-and-elbows exercises – it was an immense pain for me to raise my chin even a little bit and look in front of me.
In my current set there are 7 exercises – 4 from the elbow-and-knees part. And I’ve managed to stare not to the floor, but to look in front of me. Without pain.
And that’s a huge happiness indeed. 

Source: http://charaunitsa.livejournal.com/587100.html?view=4255836#t4255836

[Emeraldy_me]

From the social network “V kontake”

I've started doing gymnastics since May. In the very beginning I did it very actively, but then in a short while I got a setback, and had a kind of a feeling that Pandora box had been opened inside of me For some time I stopped practicing gymnastics. Now I practice it in a full volume not that regularly, but my back, tired during the day, every evening demands at least staying in the basic elbows-and-knees position, usually accompanied by a few exercises. May be that’s not correct, but such rhythm suits me, a lazy bone, perfectly. It also guarantees that I won’t neglect the gymnastics completely, as I often do in the situations, when I feel an obligation to do something. There are no mood swings, but the gymnastics helps me to release stress, you know sometimes it’s being accumulated all together – kids, domestic cares, mess at home, and I start boiling bit by bit. Then I leave the room, do a few exercises and come back as if I had a good walk, rested, relaxed, kind . 

I’ve already mentioned about the spine - elbows-and-knees position is a real remedy for me, that’s already a mandatory procedure to place back the spine bones in the thoracic and lumbar spine.       
 
I, as a doctor (yes, I’m a doctor, though I haven’t worked even a single day yet, from the internship straightway to maternity leave) and as a ‘doubting Thomas’, try to be objective and assess only a direct result. So that’s why for similar people I’ll tell about my results. Candidiasis, also known as yeast infection. It had been torturing me for 6 years with remissions and acute aggravations; I’ve tried all possible kinds of medicines. Since May it does not disturb me, it was about to start and disappeared without any medicines. 
 
Waist! My body shape is not really rectangular, but difference between the waist and the hips was not that obvious as I wished to have. And recently people around started showering me with compliments, asking how I managed to lose weight, the waist got slimmer, no cellulite at the hips. I’ve measured myself with the measuring tape – no lost weight, but the body shape really became more feminine! Hurray!

Sex. I was from that sort of people for whom ‘appetite comes with eating’. And during breaks…well, I didn’t want. I even felt lazy. And now I WANT!

One more effect. You, doubters, believe it or not, this change can be explained by a lot of factors, but I personally link it with the gymnastics. I started feeling sick at other persons’ territory where I have to follow other persons’ rules. I always used to be a conformist, but now I stopped caving in and started following my personal life rules (and yes, my personal life rules different from generally accepted have also recently appeared in my life). And probably I’m not that good anymore in the eyes of many people, but I am what I am.

In general the changes are positive. I also wish someone would give me a magic kick to practice gymnastics more often to speed up my transformation from a sleeping case-worm into a beautiful butterfly.
« Reply#152 : 28 November 2013, 05:01:14 » http://gimnastika-zvezda.com/forum/index.php?topic=46.150

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Oh, Sveta, I just adore you for what you've done!)))
I hapenned to come across these feedbacks, caught a few glimpses.... Gonna read them tomorrow with GREAT relish!
Isn't it wonderful, totally magnificent that I caught sight of them immediately after I wrote into my diary about the way I appreciate English these days?!
You don't mind if I add something of my own here, do you?)))))

[li_ri_ka]

Shelkovaya is writing in her diary:

Speaking about the Gymnastics:
I heard about it a long time ago. But I just looked, read, observed and passed by. A year ago I heard about it again from one of my acquaintances. I began to study it in greater detail and just started doing it!

I didn’t feel anything specific - no energy, burning or anything else. I just felt my wooden non-bending body (by the way, I had always considered myself quite flexible), and these exercises, that looked so easy and simple, turned to be so difficult for me! In short, I just decided to do the Gymnastics and that’s all. And for the whole year I did it in the following way: two months of the Gymnastics, then a break of 1-1,5 month. So, here are the conclusions that I can draw for this period:

1.   For the first 5 months after exercises in the elbows and knees position my vagina always started speaking. It is really so! And it was loud! I mean, either before that it was permanently strained and after deliberate relaxation it released air, or something different happened )))
2.   Stresses and strains in the back are worked through from top to bottom. At first I had a pain in the neck, especially, after the elbows and knees position, then the pain in the neck disappeared, but there came a strain at the level of the shoulder blades closer to the central axis, and now it is lower! The posture is also changing, though, there are no miracles. No wonder! I’ve been stooping for so many years!
3.   In the first month of doing the Gymnastics I got rid of the pain in the shoulder joint that hurt from time to time, especially, when my children were small and I carried them a lot. However… this pain came back during the Gymnastics, and even became stronger, but then disappeared. By now it hasn’t already hurt for about half a year! The best is yet to come!
4.   Enormous aggression towards men got out of me and turned into an ulcer. My nearest get a lot: my husband and sometimes my father and father-in-law.
5.   In the background of this constant aggression and unsatisfaction, in 8 months of the Gymnastics (and some sessions of authentic movement) I got dermatitis all over my body with round the clock itching. My inner abscess opened, I felt at peace with myself and even got some relief!
6.   The used-up energy release. I clearly got the notion of used-up energy release in 10 months of starting the Gymnastics. I closed my eyes and clearly saw that some thick and viscous liquid like lava moved from top to bottom and out of me. Every day it became thinner and thinner and went faster out of me!

So, these are the things that I can recall now!

[li_ri_ka]

A small but important post about smoking. Marya@ is writing in her Wind of Change Diary:

I quitted smoking thanks to Zvezda Gymnastics in the 4-5th month from starting it. I do 7 exercises by 3 repetitions every day.  In the first 2 months I still felt like smoking. Now I don’t smoke at all. And I don’t care if someone is smoking beside me. My smoking period lasted for 12 years and I had lots of attempts to quit that failed. As of today I’ve been doing the Gymnastics for 1,5 year.

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Natalya Konoshevich’s feedback on Zvezda Gymnastics:

The Gymnastics came into my life in the period when again I clearly understood that it was time to change something in my life, when it became obvious that I cannot be good for everybody and I don’t have any energy to be my true self. And there also rose the question – who I am, actually? without any connection to my children, husband, boss, students etc. The first day, or the night to be more exact, when I was kind of “tasting” the Gymnastics, suddenly my husband woke up, though it wasn’t typical for him before. He roamed around for some time and looked puzzled by my behavior.

The next day one of my exes called whom I had neither seen nor communicated for years. He said that he was in town for some business and suggested having a lunch together. At that moment, for the first time I suspected that the Gymnastics really worked.
After that I was doing the exercises in my garden. It was hot, clouded and it looked like it was going to rain. And such weather had already been for several days: heat and rain. Then suddenly a neighbour came out and started watering his potatoes.
Today I’ve already done my 7 exercises twice and agitation started.
I have an obvious problem in the shoulders. Especially in the left one, that hurts when I’m stretching in the elbows and knees position, and besides I cannot join the elbows.

However, I feel that, without any doubt, this practice helps me to discover my backbone the existence of which I’ve doubted a lot.

[li_ri_ka]

Layla’s  feedback about weight loss and physical changes.

“I also want to add something about changes in my body.
First of all, I want to say that I’ve been acquainted with the Gymnastics for 3 years, but I did it with breaks of 2-3 months or more… It wasn’t about desire, it was about possibilities. However, the results of the Gymnastics were not diminished. I’ve always had the effect and it got accumulated.

1.   I do agree with other feedbacks about weight loss. In 2-2,5 months, without noticing it, I lost 4-5 kg. And it really looked like I fell asleep being one person and woke up being another person. I didn’t notice it at all. I can’t say that I really needed to lose weight but sometimes I have some excessive kilos. They may not be noticed by other people but I feel uncomfortable about them.

2.   After starting the Gymnastics I noticed that my hips became wider, more feminine and, accordingly, my butt acquired a delicious form that can be envied by skinny models )). Of course, it is also thanks to the lumbar curve.

3.   I can’t speak for the others, but my breasts have grown bigger. Yes. I really analyzed this thing a lot, and I couldn’t find any other explanation but the Gymnastics exercises. I had to change my clothes because all the tops and shirts became too small and short for me.

4.   Speaking about the legs, I can’t say exactly whether the form has changed or it’s some psychological thing but I just started adoring my long and slim legs to which I didn’t pay any attention before. I really admire and take care of them. And, of course, I like exposing them in a beautiful skirt ;-)))

So, these are the results I can recall now )))”.

[li_ri_ka]

A post from the Gymnastics livejournal community about the relaxed belly:

Gradually, Zvezda Gymnastics becomes a practice of self-awareness

At first, it was purely mystic for me. I was brought to the Gymnastics by the spirits of my ancestors, then, as a bonus, I got a lot of men’s attention, and after that, I was inspired to find my waist. Now the time of Zvezda Gymnastics is the time of speaking to my body.

The body is wise. It can always honestly tell us, without any lies, how we live and what we think.
I have never had the lumbar curve and I have never felt my belly. I didn’t feel satiety, the belly chakras. And very seldom I was satisfied with food or sex. And I didn’t know what to do about it.

I shall note that I started doing the Gymnastics after I started communicating with my body. There were times when even touching my belly was unpleasant to me. I avoided touching my breasts or genitals.

And then it turned out that the lumbar curve and stomach are interconnected. I cannot relax by belly without bending in the waist. I read somewhere here that the stomach must be relaxed but I didn’t have this relaxation skill at all. This sounds paradoxical but a big belly is a tensed belly. It is the belly that cannot feel because it’s all blocked with tension. The tensed belly cannot feel satiety that’s why it eats a lot. The tensed belly can’t enjoy food and cannot be satisfied with food. And only when you are too full, you can finally feel your belly and inner organs, and this feeling is so important for the body. Now I’m speaking about overeating. Maybe, those who don’t have this problem won’t understand me due to absence of such destructive experience.

My belly wasn’t used to relaxing. When I thought that I really relaxed my stomach, in fact, relaxation was very insignificant at the beginning of my Zvezda Gymnastics. Now I can’t even call it “relaxation”.

 I’ve got the feeling that all my life I avoided feeling the enormous part of my body – from breasts to legs. As if it didn’t live at all without being realized and perceived. And at the same time, feeling my body gives me valuable messages. My body is my helper and the Gymnastics helps me to communicate with this helper.

[li_ri_ka]

A feedback on Zvezda Gymnastics from stranamam.ru

A little miracle. But very important and pleasant.

I am a self-reflecting person. I am easy to be offended and hurt. Melancholic, in a word. I look like a strong woman but I’m very vulnerable inside… And my problem has always been the fact that I can keep a negative emotion inside for a very long time. And as it appeared, it is also kept in the whole body.
Thanks to Zvezda Gymnastics, I found a wonderful and, most importantly, fail-proof tool to get rid of this “burden”.

Once, while experiencing these emotions (a shop assistant was very rude to me or something like that, don’t remember exactly), I noticed that apart from the fact that I think about this situation all the time, saying what would I do, what I should have done, what if…. I felt that the lower part of my belly became like a stone… And then I just relaxed my belly and perineum. I physically felt that this black lump accumulated by me because of this stupid situation with a shop assistant and her rudeness rolled down and left my body and mind. I felt so easy! I was amazed by the simple way of such release. I accepted, forgave and let go this situation at once.
Doing the Gymnastics, I still don’t feel the used up energy release as other women describe it. Probably, the time hasn’t come yet. However, in such situations I found a wonderful practical use for it.

[li_ri_ka]

A feedback from the Gymnastics chat:

Zvezda Gymnastics fixes very well post-delivery hemorrhoid. Of course, many women wrote about this effect in the Gymnastics resources, but I’ll do it once again in case someone hasn’t seen those reports and really needs it.
My experience is that I’ve been suffering from this problem for almost a year. Now it appears and really hurts for some time, then everything is ok for 2 weeks as if I didn’t have it at all. The last acute condition has been recently (by the way, coinciding with another storm in my relations with the husband. Maybe, it is just a coincidence, or, maybe, not).

I started doing the Gymnastics because it really hurt. After the first session it was better and almost for a day there were no pains. I felt comfortable. Then again the hemorrhoid drew attention to itself. The next time I had very little time and I had just a bit for Zvezda Gymnastics. So, I just did the basic positions one by one for several seconds – standing, kneeling, elbows-and-knees, kneeling and standing . The effect of this exercise was great but it didn’t last long. In an hour I had to repeat the exercises. In short, in a couple of days of frequently repeating the basic positions (5-6 times a day when I had a spare moment) the pain disappeared. Before, it took 5-7 days for the pain to abate.

I am a lazy person. I do the Gymnastics only when my body gives me a kick or when my world is going to go to the bad. In a word, when some shit happens to me. If I did Zvezda Gymnastics regularly, I would have already forgotten about such unpleasant consequence of the delivery as hemorrhoid.   
 

[li_ri_ka]

A feedback on Zvezda Gymnastics and alcohol

I’ll share my experience. Of course, it’s a shame, but still… My love affair with alcohol lasted for about 4 years and that was serious. Of course, I didn’t knee-crawl but quietly at home I could get really smashed. My attempts to solve this problem were fruitless. In my head I understood everything but I didn’t have enough will to stop it. Of course, that period of my life was extremely difficult in terms of various events and circumstances and I, as a true alcoholic, took them as an excuse pleading that it was hard time and for this reason I allowed myself too much. NOBODY knew about my problem. In the morning at work I was fresh, and if I felt bad I explained it with a cold or some other indisposition. 

Finally, half a year ago I decided I had to quit. Otherwise, some tragedy could happen and I have a daughter. In short, I took a decision but it wasn’t as easy as it looked. Of course, I reduced the amount and frequency of drinking but I couldn’t stop it completely. However, I had positive changes in my life. I got a boy-friend that I didn’t want to lose. He is a hater of alcohol-drinking women, in any amount. Naturally, I told him that I didn’t drink AT ALL! And I really stopped drinking AT ALL!!! I want to repeat that nobody knew about my problem, including him. Of course, it’s a kind of lie but I hope that it’s a lie for good.

In a word, I stopped drinking at all but I had this addiction and it was very strong, kind of hunger when you keep to a diet… And in this moment Zvezda Gymnastics came into my life. Super! I am happy! The changes, of course, are different. I’ve been doing it for 2 months. But the main thing is that alcohol addiction is disappearing!!! This is the most important thing for me now. Three weks ago my boyfriend went on a business trip, I broke loose and got smashed from the amount that I would hardly ever feel before. The morning was very sad, all the body hurt, the brain didn’t work. I felt sick and even thought of calling an ambulance but I was ashamed of that. I stayed at home for 2 days. Since that time I don’t want to drink at all. I try to avoid my friend who is always for drinking with good snacks. I started being AFRAID of alcohol. As if I saw it from a different angle and saw all its horrors and filth. I hope my daughter won’t remember me in this state, though I tried to protect her from this.

The Gymnastics helps me to fight this evil. I feel different, think different and see everything in a different way. I hope I will finally cope with this problem ))))

[li_ri_ka]

A feedback from Zvezda Gymnastics Forum:

Yesterday I was walking down the street and saw the way I walk when I am sad and when I feel relieved and strong. So, when I am too deep in my thoughts and some worries, automatically my shoulders go forward and I walk with my shoulders and head in front of me. And all the rest body is trying “to catch up” with the head and shoulders. However it is the shoulders that set the movement…. No comments about relaxed belly or pelvic floor in this case ((((

When I am relaxed and feel good, when I feel my way and I am in the flow, when my belly and pelvic floor are relaxed, my body moves evenly, and it is the pelvis that sets the movement. And out of the impulse that is born there, movement goes all over the body. In such case the shoulders are in the same line with the hips, they don’t move ahead. It is a very easy and pleasant way of walking. As far as I remember Sanych called this “the core” and this way of walking  - “walking from the core”. In contact improvisation the point of relaxation and impulse is also the belly, the place a bit lower the navel that is called “the centre”. Funny )

I suppose this is the way Malaysian women walk and I admired them so much!
And I walk this way when I bring people to the mountains. It is easy for me to go up just because at that moment my belly is relaxed, the spine is straight, the pelvis is relaxed and all this rolls forward easily – this is the image that appears. And the whole body catches up with the rest. And when going up, you stoop, bend the spine, put the shoulders ahead and stare at the ground, it is hard to walk and you get tired very quickly and lose your breath.

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Irina PN’s feedback:

Tomorrow it’ll be a year since I started Zvezda Gymnastics.
I’ve got good and not that great results.
So, the good results. My back doesn’t bother me at all, though I have multiple injuries, and my baby hangs on me all day long as a monkey on the liana. Many women write that they stopped wearing heels. On the contrary, I wear such shoes with great pleasure because before I had problems with the spine and feet and couldn’t wear high heels.

It was said many times that the Gymnastics harmonizes the endocrine system including female hormones. For many years the doctors tried to increase my progesterone. Zvezda Gymnastics did it without any pills. It increased the hormone to the standard level. But this appeared not very good to me because I have progesterone intolerance and, as a result, pimples, cellulitis and weight gain. Most probably, this intolerance is caused by something in the subtle planes and related to absolute absence of Love in the women of my family.

I won’t write anything about my emotional state. It is very complicated and not related to the Gymnastics. Mostly, it is caused by the fact that for over two years I haven’t had any possibility to be alone, even half an hour alone in the flat.

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A feedback form Zvezda Gymnastics Forum:

Hello everyone,

I’ll try to provide my feedback. It’s been a year since I started the Gymnastics. I had all sort of things in this period. I’ve got plenty of thoughts in the head, difficult to convey everything… Still  I want to write which means that I should do it…

I will describe myself at the moment. I’ll start with the good things. I am a woman…)) And it speaks for itself. I have a decent level of intuition but I have never been able to properly use it. And I understand that I’ve made all my mistakes with the brain, logic… Now I try to listen to myself, I really try, learn to do it (though I don’t always manage it). So, I get an idea and, without sorting out why I need it now, I simply do it in the way that I want and feel and later I understand why I needed it… I’ve got lots of examples to that… Now I really need to go to Hungary. I don’t know why I need this trip but I feel that it is necessary to dart away and go; to find a substitution at work, leave the child to the granny and set off on a trip… And the most important thing is that I do like living THIS way. I cannot say that I don’t have any problems now. I do, and lots of… But I’m sure that everything will be settled, everything will be ok. I have this confidence though I don’t even have an idea in what way all these problems will be fixed… Maybe, it’s difficult to understand what I’m writing about, but I write it with all my heart…)

In a year of regular Zvezda exercises (there scarcely were any days when I didn’t do the Gymnastics this year) I attended only one Zvezda workshop in Minsk. I liked everything but didn’t manage to visit more workshops. I think when there is a need, there will be another workshop ))

I want to tell about my way of doing Zvezda Gymnastics. When I just started, I strictly followed Maria’s instructions. Though I drew a new set of cards every 2-3 weeks instead of every month. When I mastered a new set of exercises, I got bored… I did it along with the video. After the workshop I paid attention to my mistakes and later the Gymnastics itself corrected my errors. Now I do the exercises and really enjoy it …) In 4-5 months after the beginning I started drawing 7 exercises from the whole pack. By the way, I always do 7 exercises with one repetition. I read in the instruction that at the beginning it is not recommended to do exercises mainly in one position, it can lead to disbalance… In my case it is different. I often do the Gymnastics in the morning and I can assess my day in accordance with the exercises that I draw, and in accordance with the number of exercises in each position, for example. Usually, my guesses are proved…

To be continued…))